01-19-2006, 10:13 PM
இந்துதுவ வாதிகளால் இணயத்தில் பரப்பப்டும் புரட்டுக்களை சுட்டிக் காட்டுகிறது இந்த ஆய்வாளரின் குழுமத்திற்கான மின்னஞ்ஞல்.இந்த இந்துதுவப் புரட்டுக்களைத்தான் இங்கே சில கற்றுக் குட்டிகள் விஞ்ஞான ஆராச்சி என்று அவாவுகின்றன.திட்டமிட்ட ரீதியில் பரப்பபடும் இந்த புரட்டுக்களுக்கு ஆதாரமாகச் சொல்லப்படும் ஆய்வுகளில் உள்ள எரர் மாஜினை வைத்து எந்தவிகமான வரலாற்று நிகழ்வுகளையும் கூற முடியாது என்பது விஞ்ஞான ரீதியான கட்டுரைகளைப் படிதவர்களுக்கு, எழுதியியவர்களுக்கு விளங்கும்.இங்கே விஞ்ஞானம் என்று பார்ப்பனர்களின் இந்துத்துவ அரசியல் விற்கப்படுகிறது.இதனைத் தான் தமிழர்களுக்கான ஆய்வாக இங்கே ஒருவர் பிதற்றித் திரிகிறார்.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steve Farmer <>
Date: Dec 18, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: [Indo-Eurasia] Biblical 'Creationism' and the California Business
To: Indo-Eurasian_research at yahoogroups.com
Cc: Steve Farmer <>
Dear List,
It's Sunday, and if you appreciate black humor, here's an example of
the kind of disinformation related to the California issue now flying
around the Web.
Every time a new genetics paper appears that deals with the African
dispersal of genes into the rest of the world -- normally dealing with
temporal ranges on the order of 35,000+ years ago -- the Hindutva
groups begin publicly claiming that the paper provides "proof' that any
migrations of Indo-European speaking people ever occurred in S. Asia
(in early historical times).
These claims have become increasingly common since a paper by Kivisild
et al. appeared on mitochondrial DNA in 1999, which first gave rise to
such claims. (They even trotted this paper out at the California
hearings on Dec. 2.) The fact that the temporal error bars in Kivisild
et al. are longer than the distance that separates us from the
composers of the RV (!), making the data in the paper useless in
discussing historical rather than deep prehistorical events,
conveniently gets lost in in the discussion. So do the profusion of
papers that different sides in this highly politicized issue.
Now for reasons that none of us have quite figured out, the Hindutva
groups have added the claim that the so-called Aryan invasion theory is
linked up with biblical 'Creation Science'. We haven't figured out the
reasons behind this leap of imagination, but on it, see below. This
little Hindutva 'news' item was just yanked off the Web and forwarded
to us by a friendly correspondent.
It would take a long exegesis to untangle this mess -- the stories
falsely ascribed to Jim Heitzman, from UC Davis, are maybe the funniest
of them all -- but so many of these stories right now are flooding the
Net (I found out today too that I'm a believer in 'Creationist
Science') that we can't keep up with all of them.
So let's just let the story speak for itself. Michael has some similar
stories that he might way to share with us. (There are things much
worse than what you see below that we're being sent nearly every hour
-- threats of lasuits, crank emails, and worse.)
There is big money behind the Hindutva moves on California, and we are
currently tracking down the money trail.
Best,
Steve
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Steve Farmer <>
Date: Dec 18, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: [Indo-Eurasia] Biblical 'Creationism' and the California Business
To: Indo-Eurasian_research at yahoogroups.com
Cc: Steve Farmer <>
Dear List,
It's Sunday, and if you appreciate black humor, here's an example of
the kind of disinformation related to the California issue now flying
around the Web.
Every time a new genetics paper appears that deals with the African
dispersal of genes into the rest of the world -- normally dealing with
temporal ranges on the order of 35,000+ years ago -- the Hindutva
groups begin publicly claiming that the paper provides "proof' that any
migrations of Indo-European speaking people ever occurred in S. Asia
(in early historical times).
These claims have become increasingly common since a paper by Kivisild
et al. appeared on mitochondrial DNA in 1999, which first gave rise to
such claims. (They even trotted this paper out at the California
hearings on Dec. 2.) The fact that the temporal error bars in Kivisild
et al. are longer than the distance that separates us from the
composers of the RV (!), making the data in the paper useless in
discussing historical rather than deep prehistorical events,
conveniently gets lost in in the discussion. So do the profusion of
papers that different sides in this highly politicized issue.
Now for reasons that none of us have quite figured out, the Hindutva
groups have added the claim that the so-called Aryan invasion theory is
linked up with biblical 'Creation Science'. We haven't figured out the
reasons behind this leap of imagination, but on it, see below. This
little Hindutva 'news' item was just yanked off the Web and forwarded
to us by a friendly correspondent.
It would take a long exegesis to untangle this mess -- the stories
falsely ascribed to Jim Heitzman, from UC Davis, are maybe the funniest
of them all -- but so many of these stories right now are flooding the
Net (I found out today too that I'm a believer in 'Creationist
Science') that we can't keep up with all of them.
So let's just let the story speak for itself. Michael has some similar
stories that he might way to share with us. (There are things much
worse than what you see below that we're being sent nearly every hour
-- threats of lasuits, crank emails, and worse.)
There is big money behind the Hindutva moves on California, and we are
currently tracking down the money trail.
Best,
Steve

